Summary: KNUS weekend host Trevor Carey asserted that a transgender woman murdered in Greeley had committed “fraud” in presenting herself as a woman and agreed with a caller that it was grounds for physical violence against her. Carey also stated that the victim, Angie Zapata, had “faked” the suspect into having “some sexual relations,” and claimed that “rage” regarding “the fact that [Zapata] was living as a woman” had “so much to do with the murder.”
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Discussing the case of a transgender woman murdered in Greeley, allegedly by a heterosexual acquaintance, 710 KNUS host Trevor Carey on his March 14 broadcast stated that the victim, Angie Zapata, had committed “fraud” against the suspect by presenting herself as a woman — and agreed with a caller that this was grounds for physical violence against Zapata or any transgender person who did the same thing. Carey said that “that man didn’t deserve to die” and that “the transgender segment of our society needs to be telling their type” that “you don’t commit fraud” because “you’re at least gonna get your teeth kicked in.”
Carey stated that Zapata had “faked a guy into” having “some sexual relations,” and claimed that “rage” regarding “the fact that [Zapata] was living as a woman” had “so much to do with the murder.”
According to a March 12 article in the Greeley Tribune:
Prosecutors will have to proceed without some key evidence in the murder trial of Allen Andrade.
Andrade is accused of killing Angie Zapata, a transgender woman found dead in her southeast Greeley apartment on July 17. Zapata, 18, was biologically a man named Justin Zapata, but she lived her life as a woman.
Police believe Andrade, 31, of Thornton killed Zapata when he discovered she was actually a man.
According to a police affidavit, Andrade told [Greeley Police Det. Greg] Tharp he met Zapata on the Internet and that they had arranged a date. The affidavit said he stayed at Zapata’s apartment alone while she went out, and he realized Zapata was a man. When Zapata returned later, Andrade confronted her about being a man, eventually hitting her with his fists and knocking her to the ground, the affidavit stated.
Andrade, according to the affidavit, said he then hit Zapata with a fire extinguisher, and later, when she started to wake up, he hit her several more times until she died.
After referencing remarks he made on an earlier program that he said prompted a response from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) national advocacy group, Carey and a caller contended that Zapata had committed “fraud” against the suspect for presenting herself as a woman — which was grounds, they said, for physical violence against Zapata or any transgender person who did the same thing.
From the March 14 broadcast of KNUS 710 AM’s The Trevor Carey Show:
CAREY: Topic B for me tonight is transgenders. Now, you might have heard of the story that happened in Greeley where there was a man who was a transgender who was a man living as a woman; Angie Zapata was his name. Now, I got in a little bit of trouble; the Associated Press states that transgendered are to be referred to as “shes.” The Weld County District Attorney’s office in this case is referring to this victim as a she.
She faked a guy into, there was some sexual relations. It didn’t go all the way, but there was some sexual relations that happened. And when this man found it out that it was another man, he beat the victim. The victim woke up from the beating gurgling blood, whatever, out the mouth. He took a fire extinguisher and finished the victim off. Then stole the victim’s car, got caught, I think it was in Denver. Anyhow, he’s in jail now. So the big issue is, do we call this individual a he or she?
So in a quote in the Greeley Tribune, I stated that I had said “he,” “she,” and “victim” all in the same breath almost once; I didn’t know what to say. I talked to our news director, and he said, “I’m calling the victim ‘the Greeley transgender.’ ” Of course, I stated in the article that that man didn’t deserve to die, but we can’t — the fact that the man was living as a woman is the whole point of the story. It had so much to do with the murder — the rage.
So then I get a call from GLAAD in Los Angeles from this guy saying, calling in referencing to the referencing of transgenders with the gay and lesbian, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. And we got into a conversation; I found out, I asked him, “Are you homosexual?” he said, “Yes, I am.” I said, “Do you wanna, you know, have you ever had the desire to have your manhood removed?” He said, “No.” And I said, “Well, I’m glad to hear you’re normal,” and, you know, “you don’t want to have that removed.” I go, “If you were down in Trinidad strapped to a stretcher and they were coming at you with a saw to remove it, would you be screaming bloody murder?” He said, “Of course I would.” I said, “because see, that’s abnormal.”
What you want to do in the privacy of your own life in your own bedroom, go ahead and do it. That’s between you and God, whatever. But — I’m not here to say my sin’s worse than your sin, whatever you want to balance it out here. But at least you’re normal in the state that you want to keep what God gave you. I think I said “junk in the trunk,” and he got offended, but that’s what I was saying, you know, you want to keep that.
I said, “Why is it that you guys don’t see this as a mental illness? Why do you associate yourself with the transgenders?” ‘Cause I got him to say it was abnormal. I said, “So if it’s not normal, why wouldn’t you want to help these people; there’s obviously something going wrong in their head.
So I’ve invited him on the show; let’s hope he comes on the show, ’cause I think that could be some lively discussion. I said to him — [caller], I’m about to come to you in Littleton here — but I said to him, “What if I just wanted one day to say, ‘Hey, I’m black. My name is Dimitri; I’m black, I want a NAACP scholarship.’ ” Well, you’re not black. Yes I am, because in my mind and in my heart I’m black. This is what he told me the transgender felt — in his or her mind or heart, they felt like they were a woman, so they should be called a woman.
CAREY: And what the transgender segment of our society needs to be telling their type is, you don’t commit fraud because —
CALLER: No, that’s exactly what it was.
CAREY: A), you’re at least gonna get your teeth kicked in, and B) — [caller laughs] — here’s a story from Greeley that turned out very tragic, and you should pay attention to this, because —
CALLER: You know, when I was growin’ up in Greeley, I grew up in Greeley, that kind of stuff didn’t ever, you know, surface in this town. And it’s just sad, you know; my heart just weeps for all, everybody that’s concerned. But, you know, we gotta go back to basics. You’re a man or you’re a woman, and, like you said, if you’re fraudin’ somebody, then you deserve to have your teeth kicked in. Not necessarily hung or you’re killed, but it just — they shoulda known better, you know?
CAREY: Well, you do know, now, that Governor Ritter paid back the homosexual platform by passing the transgender law now, where a transgender can go into the restroom and use the restroom right next to your daughter?
CALLER: Yes, sir; I read about that, you know. And I was in Black Hawk and Central City, and they have them type of bathrooms up there. It’s like: “What the hell am I doin’? Maybe I oughta go out and piss on somebody’s car.” [Carey laughs] You know? I don’t know where I’m safe anymore. Maybe I oughta just be taken to jail for indecent exposure and pay the consequences there rather than —
CAREY: Well, in this economy, [caller], that’s three square meals a day; you could get yourself a college degree, if you don’t have one already. You could work out. I mean, that’s — what’s a health club membership? Seventy bucks a month? You got cable. You got cable. You got, you know, you got some friendship, you know, you develop some —
CALLER: Ah — no, I want my freedom more, you know? I want to smoke a cigarette when I want, and drink a beer and live my lifestyle the way that, you know, and be a man about things, and man up to it. But you, it all comes down to what you said about fraud.
CAREY: That’s right, [caller]; we gotta roll though, buddy. Thanks for listenin’ to the show; I appreciate it. [Caller] right there on The Trevor Carey Show, back in a minute”.